Atkinson's Portugal Crash Vid Opinions needed!!
- Thread starter Runnah
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when Atk came to that crest, he seemed to hesitate, then go the way the road LOOKEd instead of what the note said
there's also some uncertainty about the note called, it's tough to tell without the context of being in the car for a while to get the hang of Macneall's note delivery style.
it appears to be shared guilt for the crash, some ppl have said they think Glenn turned two pages instead on one and read the wrong note.
give the speeds these crazies travel at on a day-to-day basis, it's amazing ANY of them make it to the finish.
there's also some uncertainty about the note called, it's tough to tell without the context of being in the car for a while to get the hang of Macneall's note delivery style.
it appears to be shared guilt for the crash, some ppl have said they think Glenn turned two pages instead on one and read the wrong note.
give the speeds these crazies travel at on a day-to-day basis, it's amazing ANY of them make it to the finish.
Rallycat66
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That clip is too short to really tell whether the notes were right, paced correctly, or what...
All I can say is that the corner caught out several cars - blind crest tightening right hander into left that was VERY hard to read visually and if your notes were not perfect from recce and you didn't trust them totally, you had big problems.
I don't think this was the catalyst to cause the split. They were already looking at splitting up and given the speed with which Macneall's new ride was announced, it sounds like the end was probably very near anyway. But, that might have been the final straw that made the decision immediate.
Tim
All I can say is that the corner caught out several cars - blind crest tightening right hander into left that was VERY hard to read visually and if your notes were not perfect from recce and you didn't trust them totally, you had big problems.
I don't think this was the catalyst to cause the split. They were already looking at splitting up and given the speed with which Macneall's new ride was announced, it sounds like the end was probably very near anyway. But, that might have been the final straw that made the decision immediate.
Tim
inski
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My diagnosis
Maybe
He said 'cut'
That right turn (over crest) maybe could have been driven alittle starighter if he had hooked the right wheels as he was going over the crast...or been way over to the right because than the road just leaves town once you are over the crast..wicked mean right turn! And possibly in recce they tried to guess if you hook the crest on the right you could straighten out the turn once over the crest and hook the left wheels as the road goes way right then straight again.
But that didn't happen and speed way too high and vehicle too unloaded to make any kind of right turn.
Maybe
He said 'cut'
That right turn (over crest) maybe could have been driven alittle starighter if he had hooked the right wheels as he was going over the crast...or been way over to the right because than the road just leaves town once you are over the crast..wicked mean right turn! And possibly in recce they tried to guess if you hook the crest on the right you could straighten out the turn once over the crest and hook the left wheels as the road goes way right then straight again.
But that didn't happen and speed way too high and vehicle too unloaded to make any kind of right turn.
Rallycat66
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OK, you made me go and rerun the whole thing several times to get the exact notes...
Here is what gets called...
9R+ 150 Tightens Up Mid on Crest Cut 30
9R on Crest In Then 9L- 60
Brake Short R 30
In the "tightens up mid on crest cut" -- the "cut" is at 11 seconds into the video...
The 9R on Crest In Then 9L- is where they go off...
Lousy notes and bad execution if you ask me...
That "9R on Crest In" looks like it's tighter than a "9"... Chris hesitates, goes with what he sees, doesn't get as far to the right as "IN" would have suggested he wanted to be, and he wasn't committed to the notes being called. Even if he had committed to the "IN" I think he still would have had a hard time making that corner at the speed they were going.
Glen called what was apparently in the book and it fits what you can see, it just wasn't noted correctly in my opinion.
I'd be curious to see what other teams noted that corner as.
Tim
Here is what gets called...
9R+ 150 Tightens Up Mid on Crest Cut 30
9R on Crest In Then 9L- 60
Brake Short R 30
In the "tightens up mid on crest cut" -- the "cut" is at 11 seconds into the video...
The 9R on Crest In Then 9L- is where they go off...
Lousy notes and bad execution if you ask me...
That "9R on Crest In" looks like it's tighter than a "9"... Chris hesitates, goes with what he sees, doesn't get as far to the right as "IN" would have suggested he wanted to be, and he wasn't committed to the notes being called. Even if he had committed to the "IN" I think he still would have had a hard time making that corner at the speed they were going.
Glen called what was apparently in the book and it fits what you can see, it just wasn't noted correctly in my opinion.
I'd be curious to see what other teams noted that corner as.
Tim