04Exploder
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what are your guys thoughts on octane booster
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octane booster?
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topdeeni
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I am of the opinion that is may B something more and more of us need to run as the quality of gasoline plummets.
In the tme since my STi was purchased on modded I moved from MA to ME; once upon a time this state was famous for great fuel due to the smaller populus demographic and lack of additives in said fuel; I can tell U my V-8 4Runner really enjoys the gas up here, it sounds and feels a lot different than when I used to fill up in MAssachusetts...and well I am sure my Sea-Doo boat used to run a lot better in Sebago tha it did in local MAssachusetts lakes. maybe its just me! Now we see all sorts of crud added to fule that is probably already close to the bottom of the barrel for quality.
I have yet to add octane boost to my car, it has been an ongoing disussion between myself and the car builder. My car is tuned to 93, anything less and it start to behave like my wife on 37 Red Bulls. I struggle to find 93, the closet place is Rte 4 in Livermore or something; about 1/2 tank away for me...
Tho other alternative I guess is to purchase special fuel that is free of debris and other additives. yah... one more thing to add to the cost of enjoying a car and yet one more inflammable substance in my garage..
I guess my bottom line thought is as follows: Octane in a can has always seemed like an extra to me to try to get more from a car. That is changing rapidly as I see petroleum get more and more henious as the economy drops and consumers tighten up thier wallets. It may get to the point, if it is not already there that the purchase of gasoline exclusively for my sewbie is a required activity. what how it would make my ATV kick?
In the tme since my STi was purchased on modded I moved from MA to ME; once upon a time this state was famous for great fuel due to the smaller populus demographic and lack of additives in said fuel; I can tell U my V-8 4Runner really enjoys the gas up here, it sounds and feels a lot different than when I used to fill up in MAssachusetts...and well I am sure my Sea-Doo boat used to run a lot better in Sebago tha it did in local MAssachusetts lakes. maybe its just me! Now we see all sorts of crud added to fule that is probably already close to the bottom of the barrel for quality.
I have yet to add octane boost to my car, it has been an ongoing disussion between myself and the car builder. My car is tuned to 93, anything less and it start to behave like my wife on 37 Red Bulls. I struggle to find 93, the closet place is Rte 4 in Livermore or something; about 1/2 tank away for me...
Tho other alternative I guess is to purchase special fuel that is free of debris and other additives. yah... one more thing to add to the cost of enjoying a car and yet one more inflammable substance in my garage..
I guess my bottom line thought is as follows: Octane in a can has always seemed like an extra to me to try to get more from a car. That is changing rapidly as I see petroleum get more and more henious as the economy drops and consumers tighten up thier wallets. It may get to the point, if it is not already there that the purchase of gasoline exclusively for my sewbie is a required activity. what how it would make my ATV kick?
ruggedman
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Bad news, that isn't 93. Maine is regulated at 91 now. We are not supplied with 93 anymore. It came in when then state mandated 10% ethanol in our fuel. LAME!
Octane boosters vary depending on brand. It's basically just Toluene or Xylene. It can actually boost your octane rating, however it's generally not worth the cost/benefit. I wouldn't go and get a tune for it...but if you do a log of drag racing and want that extra oomph, then go get a race tune and take advantage of the extra octane. Methanol injection is a good way of effectively boosting your octane rating (or rather knock resistance). It's much more cost effective in the long run, and offers significantly better benefits.
diabloadsit
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a lot of people dont understand it takes 10 points to raise your octane 1 level. So some octane boosters will claim we raise your octane 10 points. So when you see it you are like man that would be like 100 oct. no you are now at 92 oct if you use it.
You are better off going and buying 105 oct non leaded race fuel and mixing a gallon or 2 of that into a fill up of 91 if you want to raise your octane level some.
You are better off going and buying 105 oct non leaded race fuel and mixing a gallon or 2 of that into a fill up of 91 if you want to raise your octane level some.
topdeeni
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yay.....**#*#@#@#*@#&@#@#@!#Bad news, that isn't 93. Maine is regulated at 91 now. We are not supplied with 93 anymore. It came in when then state mandated 10% ethanol in our fuel. LAME!
Octane boosters vary depending on brand. It's basically just Toluene or Xylene. It can actually boost your octane rating, however it's generally not worth the cost/benefit. I wouldn't go and get a tune for it...but if you do a log of drag racing and want that extra oomph, then go get a race tune and take advantage of the extra octane. Methanol injection is a good way of effectively boosting your octane rating (or rather knock resistance). It's much more cost effective in the long run, and offers significantly better benefits.
we should get together make a giant purchase of good fuel, have it shipped to one spot to save on freight and then divvy it up...
This is either going to evolve into a road warrior type state ( i get to B Tina Turner!) for good fuel or a giant group effort like selling girl scout cookies....MM tagalongs
I'm gonna tune my car for a buggy whip.
I have looked at a variety of different cleaner fules out there and how to get them. There are lots of things I have yet to catch on to such as how oxygen content, gravity and some other fuel specifications play into the performance of my car. Sunoco offers (no where in Maine) 100 octane fuel at the pump; the closest are NH and MA.. Is it worth it?
They also have this page that is still blowing my mind...
http://www.sunocoinc.com/site/Consumer/RaceFuels/UnleadedFuels/
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wzrd
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I like the buy in bulk theory and the mad max referanceyay.....**#*#@#@#*@#&@#@#@!#Not that I never ever suspected this... octane boost is essentially snake oil and useless? An elaborate plot contrived by an overpaid marketing department... no whey!
we should get together make a giant purchase of good fuel, have it shipped to one spot to save on freight and then divvy it up...
This is either going to evolve into a road warrior type state ( i get to B Tina Turner!) for good fuel or a giant group effort like selling girl scout cookies....MM tagalongs
I'm gonna tune my car for a buggy whip.
I have looked at a variety of different cleaner fules out there and how to get them. There are lots of things I have yet to catch on to such as how oxygen content, gravity and some other fuel specifications play into the performance of my car. Sunoco offers (no where in Maine) 100 octane fuel at the pump; the closest are NH and MA.. Is it worth it?
They also have this page that is still blowing my mind...
http://www.sunocoinc.com/site/Consumer/RaceFuels/UnleadedFuels/
[methane huh].My ole lady says that storage will NOT be in her back yard,so im in if you can find a spot to keep it.We could apply to the A.T.F and build a gaint still,Brew our own high octane fuel
strictly for cars not consumption
topdeeni
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I already have mason jar full of that, to bad it is peach flavored and would probably sugar coat UR engine... I asked my friend if he could brew fuel for my car but he is still blind and doing this:,Brew our own high octane fuel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V-VgRqsEcg
srry.. I love U-tewb and am waiting for an excuse to bust put "Pete Puma"
I was thinkin more along the lines of say 20 gallon ( or so ) containers on a preplanned purchase: Like a pallet or two. Try to get a volume discount and then use the advantage of ONE freight carrier to deliver said items to a specific location for final distribution to said consumers.
Or we could drain my pool...
I was looking at this stuff but am still lost on the technical schnizzle.
http://www.sunocoinc.com/Site/Consumer/RaceFuels/UnleadedFuels/Sunoco260GT.htm
wzrd
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I was thinkin more along the lines of say 20 gallon ( or so ) containers on a preplanned purchase: Like a pallet or two. Try to get a volume discount and then use the advantage of ONE freight carrier to deliver said items to a specific location for final distribution to said consumers.
Or we could drain my pool...
I was looking at this stuff but am still lost on the technical schnizzle.
http://www.sunocoinc.com/Site/Consumer/RaceFuels/UnleadedFuels/Sunoco260GT.htm
im now curious,can a non authorized sunoco distributer [me]Buy their product [high octane race gas,or at least 93 grade ] Pay cash on delivery and have them deliver to my site of choice.My friend owns a small gas station and might give me use of a LEGAL tank,if i can work out the financial end and get the stuff sold...I see subaru's ,harley's/performance cars and bikes, lined up for miles just to get a taste of some real gas on a regular basis
Or we could drain my pool...
I was looking at this stuff but am still lost on the technical schnizzle.
http://www.sunocoinc.com/Site/Consumer/RaceFuels/UnleadedFuels/Sunoco260GT.htm
im now curious,can a non authorized sunoco distributer [me
]Buy their product [high octane race gas,or at least 93 grade ] Pay cash on delivery and have them deliver to my site of choice.My friend owns a small gas station and might give me use of a LEGAL tank,if i can work out the financial end and get the stuff sold...I see subaru's ,harley's/performance cars and bikes, lined up for miles just to get a taste of some real gas on a regular basis
topdeeni
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I am sure with the internet there is ways to conquer this and get ahold of fuel.
Like URself I could see people form all over lining up thier toys to get good gas. I am sooo glad I no longer have my Sea-Doo boat with the twin supercharged engines, imagine the issues I would B having.....
They have to seel it to people, probably not a tank persay but more along the lines of probably individual cans of fuel like what my friend has in his garage for his race bikes.
Like URself I could see people form all over lining up thier toys to get good gas. I am sooo glad I no longer have my Sea-Doo boat with the twin supercharged engines, imagine the issues I would B having.....
They have to seel it to people, probably not a tank persay but more along the lines of probably individual cans of fuel like what my friend has in his garage for his race bikes.
ruggedman
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I've been there, filled up, reset the ECU parameters and datalogged it, it looked to me exactly like 91 E10. I had a friend that swore up and down the same thing. Granted its hard to tell the difference between the two, but my timing, kc, and all that jazz looked identical on 91 and their "93".
Too lazy to change the sticker i think. But E10 91 and 93 are similar as far as knock resistance goes thanks to the ethanol. The 93 would just get you better mileage. Only way to know for sure is to test it i guess
topdeeni
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sooo... Yesterday I wheeled into a gas station and saw the 93 sticker. I inquired with the attendant about the 93 octane and he basically gave me this...
1) Has NOT seen actual 93 Octane in a delivery truck for months,
2) If there is any 93 left in that tank it is certainly old and the same quality of Cabot Stains
3) He is almost positive he has seen "other gas" put on top of that tank...maybe 91, maybe not. He coul;d not be definitive.
After asking he asked what my delio was, I mentioned a modded subaru that has issues with mis-marked pump and cruddy gas. He got this wild look on his face, pointed to an ice cream stand nearby and the "car show" sign in front of it. He then went on to mention the dozens of rods and modded cars he see's at this show who have purchased "93" from his place of employ...
<--------sort of bitter at the station that had a mis-labeled pump that I juiced my STi with and what it may end up costing me.....
ps; if U look really hard U can see my outline in the picture... looks JUST like my avatar...nyuk nyuk nyuk nyuk
1) Has NOT seen actual 93 Octane in a delivery truck for months,
2) If there is any 93 left in that tank it is certainly old and the same quality of Cabot Stains
3) He is almost positive he has seen "other gas" put on top of that tank...maybe 91, maybe not. He coul;d not be definitive.
After asking he asked what my delio was, I mentioned a modded subaru that has issues with mis-marked pump and cruddy gas. He got this wild look on his face, pointed to an ice cream stand nearby and the "car show" sign in front of it. He then went on to mention the dozens of rods and modded cars he see's at this show who have purchased "93" from his place of employ...
<--------sort of bitter at the station that had a mis-labeled pump that I juiced my STi with and what it may end up costing me.....
ps; if U look really hard U can see my outline in the picture... looks JUST like my avatar...nyuk nyuk nyuk nyuk
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Ho. Ly. ****. (sry, mods)
Just called Mobil in Yarmouth and confirmed that they've been selling 91 labeled as 93 for at least a year. I'm seriously considering small claims court if they don't pony up with a refund of some sort. I've been buying their "93" since I moved to town, and paying more for it than their 91.
As it is I have the Better Business Bureau and the Maine Dept of Weights and Measures pages open and I'm starting there.
For all those who I've annoyed with my incessant whining that "Yarmouth has 93" over the past year, I apologize. This is the last goddamn time I trust what any asshat in a damn convenience store tells me.
Just called Mobil in Yarmouth and confirmed that they've been selling 91 labeled as 93 for at least a year. I'm seriously considering small claims court if they don't pony up with a refund of some sort. I've been buying their "93" since I moved to town, and paying more for it than their 91.
As it is I have the Better Business Bureau and the Maine Dept of Weights and Measures pages open and I'm starting there.
For all those who I've annoyed with my incessant whining that "Yarmouth has 93" over the past year, I apologize. This is the last goddamn time I trust what any asshat in a damn convenience store tells me.
Complaint Information
Date Purchased: 5/12/2009
Zip Code of Purchase Location: 04096
Store/Establishment #:
Date of Problem First Occurred: 6/1/2008
Have you Complained to the Business: Yes
Complained to whom: James Stewart through Ben
Purchase Price: 25.78
Amount in Dispute: 1106.51
Product or Service Involved: 93 octane fuel
Brand Name or Manufacturer: Mobil
Model Name or Number: 93 octane fuel
Order, Contract or Account Number:
Salesperson's Name:
Settlement Sought: Refund-Cash
Nature of Complaint: Sales Practice Issues - A sales presentation that misrepresents the product
Description of Problem: The gasoline that the Mobil in Yarmouth has been selling as "93" octane is, by their own admission, not 93 octane fuel. I have been purchasing my fuel exclusively from this retailer for the past year because 1) my vehicle has a high-compression engine that performs better when fed 93 octane fuel, and 2) if their signage is to be believed, they are the only gas station distributing 93 octane fuel in southern Maine. I have just today learned that the fuel that I purchased today is not 93 octane, but 91 octane. Moreover, I have learned that E10 has been the only option for fuel in Maine since May, 2008. This means that every fuel purchase I have made at this store since May, 2008 has been a direct result of false signage.
Settlement Sought: I want my fuel purchases since June 2008 (the earliest I have records of) refunded. If I knew that the fuel labeled "93 octane" was actually 91 octane, I would never have purchased from the store to begin with, as their price for "93" is consistently a full $.10/gallon more than their price for "91." Given my purchases over the past year, the total of the refund should be $1,106.51. I may be willing to consider a store credit rather than a cash/check refund, but it would have to be for $1,220, as the Yarmouth Mobil prices for 91 octane run at least 10% higher than any of their competitors.
Date Purchased: 5/12/2009
Zip Code of Purchase Location: 04096
Store/Establishment #:
Date of Problem First Occurred: 6/1/2008
Have you Complained to the Business: Yes
Complained to whom: James Stewart through Ben
Purchase Price: 25.78
Amount in Dispute: 1106.51
Product or Service Involved: 93 octane fuel
Brand Name or Manufacturer: Mobil
Model Name or Number: 93 octane fuel
Order, Contract or Account Number:
Salesperson's Name:
Settlement Sought: Refund-Cash
Nature of Complaint: Sales Practice Issues - A sales presentation that misrepresents the product
Description of Problem: The gasoline that the Mobil in Yarmouth has been selling as "93" octane is, by their own admission, not 93 octane fuel. I have been purchasing my fuel exclusively from this retailer for the past year because 1) my vehicle has a high-compression engine that performs better when fed 93 octane fuel, and 2) if their signage is to be believed, they are the only gas station distributing 93 octane fuel in southern Maine. I have just today learned that the fuel that I purchased today is not 93 octane, but 91 octane. Moreover, I have learned that E10 has been the only option for fuel in Maine since May, 2008. This means that every fuel purchase I have made at this store since May, 2008 has been a direct result of false signage.
Settlement Sought: I want my fuel purchases since June 2008 (the earliest I have records of) refunded. If I knew that the fuel labeled "93 octane" was actually 91 octane, I would never have purchased from the store to begin with, as their price for "93" is consistently a full $.10/gallon more than their price for "91." Given my purchases over the past year, the total of the refund should be $1,106.51. I may be willing to consider a store credit rather than a cash/check refund, but it would have to be for $1,220, as the Yarmouth Mobil prices for 91 octane run at least 10% higher than any of their competitors.
MAINIAC XV
The Eco Man
Good luck man !