4th gear grind

back on track the gold fozz does the same thing and has done it for 30k miles but you really have to be going hard and i think the reason the gold car doe's it is cause for some reason my foot doesn't push the clutch fast enough to the floor in that gear for some reason cause the car doesn't do it every time when being driven hard its usaully when i'm trying to get throw the gears to fast

 
back on track the gold fozz does the same thing and has done it for 30k miles but you really have to be going hard and i think the reason the gold car doe's it is cause for some reason my foot doesn't push the clutch fast enough to the floor in that gear for some reason cause the car doesn't do it every time when being driven hard its usaully when i'm trying to get throw the gears to fast
Good to know Gabe. Thanks

 
with yours nate i would try putting the car in 1st gear first then go from there to reverse with the car stopped.i have had a few subarus that would pretty much lock me out of reverse until i put it in another gear first or even roll foward just a hair to get it into reverse
I've tried that, it works sometimes. What worried me was that it happened every time I went into reverse while parallel parking in Portland, after just driving all the way there from Yarmouth.

 
FWIW, I have the same issue with fourth. I think I put Lucas in last time I changed fluid. I'm going to have to put Motul in before I leave for Iraq and let the wife beat on the tranny....

 
I've tried that, it works sometimes. What worried me was that it happened every time I went into reverse while parallel parking in Portland, after just driving all the way there from Yarmouth.
I have had this issue with almost every 5 speed I have driven. You need to put the car it 1st before going to reverse. You don't need to get the car moving in first, just shift to first, then without releasing the clutch, immediately go to reverse. Be sure you have that clutch clamped down hard, reverse can be a real PITA on a lot of older 5 speeds. You will get use to being able to tell when you are or are not fully in the reverse gear. This can be tricky because the car can be partially in reverse, then when you start rolling you hear a light bang and the shifter spits out of reverse. The other thing that often happens is that it just won't sync reverse and either won't go in at all or grinds for a moment on gear entry even without releasing the clutch. As far as I can tell these nuances are common to nearly all manual 5 speed transmission designs. Even my new 2009 WRX occationally pops out of reverse or gives a light buzz on entering reverse if I dont hit 1st gear first. I almost always go to first before reverse, it just comes as second nature. BTW cold weather can make the whole reverse gear thing worse.
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Back to the matter at hand, on my old car I have had to change the Transmission 2 times in its life and I have only owned it from 140,000mi to 225,000mi. I had my 2nd transmission do this after the slave cylinder started leaking and I shifting started to get harsher and harsher. Before I realized what was going on the hard shifts to 3rd caused it to grind if I was at too high an RPM and tried to shift too quickly. I was able to delay changing out the transmission by changing the fluid with GM Syncromesh fluid and adding Friction Modifier. You can also use Pre Modified or Friction Modified Syncromesh fluid to increase the friction on the syncronizer gears and get them to sync faster. On other forums that I have visited I have heard of lots of people fixing gear grinds on foreign made transmissions by using GM-Syncromesh fluid. From what I understand lots of people in hondas and bmws and the like prefer the syncromesh fluid to other high quality gear fluid brands. Also from what I understood a few years ago, the Syncromesh fluid is used as an upgrade fluid on brands other than GM and Syncromesh Friction Modified fluid is often used in race modified GM vehicles to decrease the harshness and notchyness of the GM trannies. I think it speaks volumes about the GM transmissions when you realise that in order to make them last and function properly, they need to have super special gear oils. In other words, GM trannies suck, so do thier Isuzu built models, but at least it lead to the development of a suposedly superior gear oil.

 
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