Cash for Klunkers Gov't site (cars.gov)
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internalcombust
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Scary stuff, I am glad I don't need the government to buy me a new car. Why is our government in the buisness of buying people new cars anyway? That is not why I pay taxes. We are in real trouble.
LostinMaine
8/26/85 - 5/23/10
we are takling about fox news with a liberal government in power, if it was the other way around they would be praising it... either way take it with a grain of salt
HR radness
His royal radness
Doesn't suprise me, welcome to the socialist nation
All of you who voted for Obama, please speak up so we can tell you how much you screwed us.
"Blah blah blah Bush sucks blah blah"
Look what WE got instead, congrats
All of you who voted for Obama, please speak up so we can tell you how much you screwed us.
"Blah blah blah Bush sucks blah blah"
Look what WE got instead, congrats
-=Lobstah=-
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Sergei for President 2012
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"Junkers for Subies". Already got it written up
Definition of "junker" - anything not manufactured by FHI
Definition of "junker" - anything not manufactured by FHI
Uhh, folks? That's the same generic disclaimer that is posted on every armed forces computer, every government pc, and the like. It was a cut n' paste job when they were setting up the cars.gov network, and it's only seen when logging into the dealer - repeat DEALER - section. They're giving the dealers access to the government network, and they want to be able to call the shots on their own network.
https://supplierpayments.esc.gov/OA...s=1QjBbvK328ZbUaSUNj3kbu7K3gvpagsk17LptZc1LOg
Here’s the agreement. Please note that it’s on the login page for dealers, not consumers — and it’s not even on the cars.gov site! This agreement is not intended for consumers, and it does not apply to consumers.
Here is the U.S. Department of Transportation Privacy Policy for consumers and the general public.
Although the language of the dealer’s agreement might seem a little over-zealous (a common problem in “terms of service” agreements), it’s a lot more understandable when you realize it’s intended to apply to dealers who are entering into a business agreement with the government to dispose of clunkers. And it appears on a secure website that allows dealers to log into the government’s financial system. The page is named: supplierpayments.esc.gov.
https://supplierpayments.esc.gov/OA...s=1QjBbvK328ZbUaSUNj3kbu7K3gvpagsk17LptZc1LOg
Here’s the agreement. Please note that it’s on the login page for dealers, not consumers — and it’s not even on the cars.gov site! This agreement is not intended for consumers, and it does not apply to consumers.
Here is the U.S. Department of Transportation Privacy Policy for consumers and the general public.
Although the language of the dealer’s agreement might seem a little over-zealous (a common problem in “terms of service” agreements), it’s a lot more understandable when you realize it’s intended to apply to dealers who are entering into a business agreement with the government to dispose of clunkers. And it appears on a secure website that allows dealers to log into the government’s financial system. The page is named: supplierpayments.esc.gov.
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LostinMaine
8/26/85 - 5/23/10
the wording on that site is different then the ones quotes on the video...
also yes i voted for obama because i didnt want a crazy lady that doesn't know where her own state is to run things. I would have voted for the other lady if she had beat out obama because at least she had some experience with these matters; you know she had bill by the balls the whole time he was in office (or Monica did im not sure)
also yes i voted for obama because i didnt want a crazy lady that doesn't know where her own state is to run things. I would have voted for the other lady if she had beat out obama because at least she had some experience with these matters; you know she had bill by the balls the whole time he was in office (or Monica did im not sure)
LostinMaine
8/26/85 - 5/23/10
ah
Chris
YARRR SUBY MONSTER!!
I absolutely hate the cash for clunkers program. It is one of the biggest wastes, destroying a perfectly good working car that gets 18mpg to go buy a car that gets 25mpg is so stupid. If they are going to do it all they should make the new car you get have to be 40+ mpg, or something.
But the cost and oil to produce the new 25mpg car someone buys over the 18mpg car will never make up for the 5mpg difference. Not in oil use, pollution, etc. They'd have to drive that new car for hundreds of thousands of miles to break even. Break even both in gas savings and emissions probably. It is just ridiculous and makes me sad perfectly good working cars that underprivileged people could use are getting destroyed.
The other part about the program is the tax money bit, I'm supporting something I really don't support. But here is the thing. The idea is to try to stimulate the car buying market to help out auto companies. So then why are people allowed to use that $4000ish to go buy a foreign car? If the point is to help out struggling car companies *cough* GM *cough* it should be contained to the US car market.
I'm not saying I want that to happen, more people who buy subarus the better
, I'm just saying that is how the program should logically work. If you can apply any logic to it in the first place...
But the cost and oil to produce the new 25mpg car someone buys over the 18mpg car will never make up for the 5mpg difference. Not in oil use, pollution, etc. They'd have to drive that new car for hundreds of thousands of miles to break even. Break even both in gas savings and emissions probably. It is just ridiculous and makes me sad perfectly good working cars that underprivileged people could use are getting destroyed.
The other part about the program is the tax money bit, I'm supporting something I really don't support. But here is the thing. The idea is to try to stimulate the car buying market to help out auto companies. So then why are people allowed to use that $4000ish to go buy a foreign car? If the point is to help out struggling car companies *cough* GM *cough* it should be contained to the US car market.
I'm not saying I want that to happen, more people who buy subarus the better
LostinMaine
8/26/85 - 5/23/10
the most popular trade in is an Explorer and the most popular buy is a Focus, so the money is coming to the US
internalcombust
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Wrong, here is the list not too many domestics other than the trade in list.
1. Toyota Corolla
2. Ford Focus FWD
3. Honda Civic
4. Toyota Prius
5. Toyota Camry
6. Hyundai Elantra
7. Ford Escape FWD
8. Dodge Caliber
9. Honda Fit
10. Chevrolet Cobalt
TOP 10 TRADE-IN VEHICLES
1. Ford Explorer 4WD
2. Ford F150 Pickup 2WD
3. Jeep Grand Cherokee 4WD
4. Jeep Cherokee 4WD
5. Dodge Caravan/Grand Caravan 2WD
6. Ford Explorer 2WD
7. Chevrolet Blazer 4WD
8. Ford F150 Pickup 4WD
9. Chevrolet C1500 Pickup 2WD
10. Ford Windstar FWD Van
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