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i told patriot to shove it, they wont align my car. i have inside edge tire wear on the rear, but since io lowered the front to make it sit level, they wont touch the rear. all i want is for the rear not to wear tires, is that to much to ask. mmm is gonig to do it on friday. i cant wait for the new dealership to start up. :violent4:

 
who did you talk to at patriot?

it must have been someone new.. they aligned my Miata last spring (completely different suspension setup than a Subaru) without a problem

wish inskizzle was still there.. he is the master of the rack.. heh.. rack..

 
well the problem is that my car is still under warranty. i am not gonna pay for a rear tire align while i only have 12000 minles on it.

 
was it lowered when you bought it?

who did the install on the springs and did you pay for an alignment after the spring install?

 
I'm sorry but that is just a completely absurd expectation.

Lowering the car is your own doing and you expect Subaru to pick up the tab to realign it?? Sure you didn't "lower" the rear but you think lowering the front didn't effect the vehicle dynamics? Attitudes like that are what lead to stingy warantee policies in the first place, and you're doing nothing more than perpetuating the problem that you're bitching about.

 
I'm sorry but that is just a completely absurd expectation.

Lowering the car is your own doing and you expect Subaru to pick up the tab to realign it?? Sure you didn't "lower" the rear but you think lowering the front didn't effect the vehicle dynamics? Attitudes like that are what lead to stingy warantee policies in the first place, and you're doing nothing more than perpetuating the problem that you're bitching about.
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your situation is not Subaru's fault..and it's not even that big of a deal. why make it into one?

FYI, that dreaded "wheel gap" you lowered the front to get rid of is there for a purpose--to maintain full designed suspension travel at the heavier end of the car. Subaru didnt design that gap to piss you off and "keep car up at the bow", they did it to make a subaru drive like a subaru and not like a slammed honder.

stock WRX is level in factory spec, the larger gap above front wheels just makes it look up at the nose. Most owners who think they know more than Suby engineers eventually learn that every action on suspension setup has consequences...as you are now finding out.

 
:fart:

BTW, everyone at the "new" dealership is gonna be the same nice folk you dealt with before.

Congradulations on your new repair facility.

 
Where's that pic of the chick with panties in a bunch? I'm not even sure it's necessarily appropriate here. I just want to see it again.

Oh, and yeah, if you lower the car the warranty will not cover an alignment or re-alignment or whatever kind of alignment. Makes sense to me.

Finally, wheel/suspension travel FTW!

 
you guys would not be upset if the rears were wearing, i have 15 miles since the springs, the wheel issue was there before, just didnt notice, since the inside edge is wore on the rear. you are right, you guys dont know the whole story of my bullshit troubles with subaru at all. and in reply to the new shop, it is going to be the pape company buying the line, and they are highering from within, since the old service manager at evergreen applied and that's what they told him

 
Well you need an alignment since you lowered the front.. so the whole thing gets done. right?

 
Everytime a company gets bought, you have to be re-hired by the new company. So by hiring from within, they are just simply keeping the same people, just the new company is re-hiring them. At least that's what I was told by a very reliable source.

Still, when you lower a car, it needs an alignment. Period. Subaru shouldn't be responsable for that.

How did you lower just the front anyways? Just curious.

 
somebody please explain to the stupid chick why you need an alignment when lowering. was I supposed to when I raised mine? :help:

 
Most likely, yes.

You need an alignment when you do anything to your struts/shocks because you can't ever be sure you put them back at the exact same camber you had before.

Moreover, raising and lowering a car will change the caster, which also affects how the car corners.

As for toe... I don't know. :headscratch:

 
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B = control arm

H = strut spring

A = ride height

When you alter A and H by decreasing (or increasing) the length of H, you change the values of a and b. In car terms this equates in changes to camber. As mentioned, the toe will also be changed (not 100% clear on the mechanics here but it absolutely happens).

 
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