Whats needed to turbo a 05 rs

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You'd get more bang for the buck to start with a 1 day course, then build from there, that's how I got started many moons ago. More bang for the buck to source proper tires and skid protection than bolt on a turbo. Cams are good incremental progress.

Peace out, drive fast, try not to hit stuff!

For what you'd spend to turbo your 05 RS you could swap in a 4.44 box and LSD from a Foz XT and you wouldn't believe the difference.

 
Sorry for being rude and not taking the advice that im given. It was all good advice I just didnt think things through in my head The last few post have really gave me the info I was looking for. After reading over a little bit on the tread on the other form I do realize its more work than its worth to put a turbo on my car and I would be better off saving the money to do a full swap once I pay the loan down some. So I will probably do the smart thing for now and just upgrade my suspension and handling aspects of the car. I also like the sounds of changing the rations and a LSD since it make a great difference. And it does make sense to just take the classes on at a time I was thinking they didnt split them up. I might look into taking one this summer if I can afford it in the summer.

 
I disagree with cobbled together turbo setups wont work well/for long. my winter car is as cobbled and mickey mouse as it gets. However, I have been boosting cars for many years so I know what should work and be reliable over what wont. Bottom line, you CAN turbo your n/a and have it be reliable and fun, but if you have to ask how, then you probably lack the knowledge/experience to pull it off.

I totally agree with improving your driving skills. take the winter course at Team o'neil. I did, and I learned a lot. I was complimented on my car control skills by Dave a a few other instructors, which coming from them meant a lot since they are all very involved with rally, and know what they are talking about. I want to take more classes there, and improve my skills more, not because I want to be a rally driver (expensive sport to get into) but just to know I have the skills if I should ever need them. make your car handle better, add a little more power, and take that winter class. trust me you will notice a difference!

 
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MikeyMeyagi said:
I disagree with cobbled together turbo setups wont work well/for long. my winter car is as cobbled and mickey mouse as it gets. However, I have been boosting cars for many years so I know what should work and be reliable over what wont. Bottom line, you CAN turbo your n/a and have it be reliable and fun, but if you have to ask how, then you probably lack the knowledge/experience to pull it off.

I totally agree with improving your driving skills. take the winter course at Team o'neil. I did, and I learned a lot. I was complimented on my car control skills by Dave a a few other instructors, which coming from them meant a lot since they are all very involved with rally, and know what they are talking about. I want to take more classes there, and improve my skills more, not because I want to be a rally driver (expensive sport to get into) but just to know I have the skills if I should ever need them. make your car handle better, add a little more power, and take that winter class. trust me you will notice a difference!
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hey whats going on in here!

hey Nate...I can assure you, if I didnt have turbo, I could have gone a lot faster, especially on snow. when it spools up I get tons of wheel spin and that isn't providing traction. next time we go out for a winter drive, I will leave my car at mobil and hop in with you. I can show you a few things and give you some pointers to help you maximize your setup.

Meyagi... how much would it be, for you to turbo a stock RS?

parts labor and tuning?

nate, add that cost to the price you paid for your car, and then look around for a WRX.

 
Thanks everyone for the advice I will look into the winter course also. Thanks for the offer ReZPunk I might take you up on that offer if I go again I was planning on possibly just co-driving a few time to try and pick up a few things. But if you willing to do that at the next drive, then at the next meet you can have a burger and beer on me.
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And just because the guys on here are screaming that its better to do something totally different than what you want, doesn't mean you have to listen. I fully understand wanting a turbo. I fully understand asking a question and not getting an answer that actually answers your question. The build that I was talking about with the kit will start after my car is totally done. I can update you on how the kit works when its in. The big difference is that we are not just slapping it on. This will be an sti block, forged SOHC pistons, the cams are going to delta cams to get a grind, everything else off an 05 n/a block except oil pump. The kit comes with headers, up and down pipes, turbo (garret g3/g4 hybrid), lines, something to retard the timing and I believe that a new oil pan needs to be sourced. This is something we are doing ourselves. It's a huge amount of work and I am probably leaving some things out. It's not mine, I'm just going to be doing most of the grunt work so its easy to forget things. It's really going to be a huge amount of work.

True, you dont need to do the engine like we are. It will just mean that you really need to be even more mindful of detonation. (when the fuel combusts prior to the piston reaching the top of its stroke causing all sorts of havok). Is it easier to do a wrx transplant? Not really. They will both generally have a few gremlins to figure out.

Cams are the easiest and cheapest way to gain the most power on an na engine. Best bang for buck. Add supporting mods like exhaust and a tune and you will get a pretty good gain. Suspension is where people should start though bc its all fine and dandy to go fast an the straights but if you can't hang in the corners, then that's where you'll be lost. Plus the corners are what the training people are talking about, is all about.. so there is my drawn out thoughts. On my cell at work so if I am not clear about something, let me know.

 
Thanks MIghty Subie, I have also though of doing a complete rebuild to turbo my car because I have a spare motor that need a rebuild but at this time I cant dish out that much. that's why I was seeing if it would be worth it to just turbo it the way it is. But after everyone's advice I do realize I can benefit more from learning better drive techniques I was just frustrated because I wasn't hearing what I wanted to hear. I do have a exhaust system but probably could use a tune and will probably do cams when I do the timing belt and head gaskets. I know this thread was probably a wast of time for you guy but I did learn form it and I do thank you. If you have to move or delete it you can

 
I don't think it should be deleted. It's got valuable information in it that someone else is bound to ask at some point. It's a good reference point for many.

 
yeah, I'm not going to move or delete, someone else will read this and will most likely have all questions answered by the posts in this thread.

I also won't lock it in case there are further questions.

 
Just take what you can from it and build upon that knowledge base. You'll do well. The people on here are not like nasioc. We don't flame you because you said something we think isn't a good idea. We will try to offer a better solution and will do everything possible in order to keep you from failing. If there is something wrong with your car, someone is bound to be willing to come help figure it out, maybe even help fix it. If you need tech tips, we are there. Some things I know a lot about, some like tranys, I know enough to get by, but there is people on here who can tell you the gear ratios and final drives for all subaru ones. We want to always help. So if you think someone is being harsh or anything, its just that they were first thinking about safety and then about any aspirations secondly.

So heed the advice but in the end you will end up doing what you are able to physically and monetarily no matter what is the "best" choice.

 
so I guess ill ad my own .02 to this conversation.

like they have said over and over. the turbo wont make you faster the way you want it to. I told garret while he was riding with me I miss the linear power of the n/a. also the additional power made my car unstable and almost threw me off the road a few times (tires didnt help this), it took everything that I learned while the car was n/a and driving with rob to keep it on the road.

so if you want to see what you need to turbo your car you can come take a look under my hood. but I would recommend skid plates and seat time
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I love these "I want to turbo my N/A car, but have no idea what I'm talking about" threads.

They make me laught every time they come up...

My first car was a 96 legacy. I wanted so dearly to turbo it... Because then I'D BE FASTER!!! But I lived with 140 hp.

Now.. I have a car with 80hp. Yes, just 80 little hp under the hood, a little 1.8ohv engine from 1984. My suspension is all effed, etc.

And guess what?! I'm FASTER than I was in the nice legacy! The stupid 89 pile I drive can keep up on dirt/snow drives just fine. Hmm.... it's definitely not a turbo under there...

It's all about driver software upgrade. That's more important than anything else about what you drive. Be it subaru or or a geo metro.

 
FWIW RSKid, I have "wanted" a wrx ever since they came out in '02. I got a 2000 RS first and then I finally got to a point in my life that I could have a wrx, and got it. If I could sell it for a decent price, I would, and go back to N/A for that "linear power", abenson mentioned.

 
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FWIW RSKid, I have "wanted" a wrx ever since they came out in '02. I got a 2000 RS first and then I finally got to a point in my life that I could have a wrx, and got it. If I could sell it for a decent price, I would, and go back to N/A for that "linear power", abenson mentioned.
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Put a supercharger on it
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THAT is one project that will never leave my mind...

 
Electric supercharger is a total joke.

The belt driven ones are awesome, and someday want to have one under my hood. Wouldn't be TOO hard either. You could shove it where the AC pump is supposed to go, that gives you the whole room of the battery tray too if you re-locate the battery.

Then you don't have to deal with exhaust routing and all that, just intake routing, one pipe to a TMIC right into the intake. Would be a lot easier, and no lag. Which is whaht annoys me with turbos....

I want to get a 1.8 and SC the crap out of it, those a tough little motors that can take it.

 
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