Cameras *no point and shoots*
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Yeef, must have missed this. My professional wedding photos were done with a D200, and they're fan-damn-tastic. If your eye is good enough so that you don't have to rely on the latest technology to make you look like a photographer (like I do...my eye is crap) the d200 would be sweet.
IMHO, the features on the d5000 aren't compelling enough to commit to.
IMHO, the features on the d5000 aren't compelling enough to commit to.
topdeeni
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UR right Pedro.. To me it means that the dealio's will start rolling in as resellers look to loose old inventory in favor of the higher margined new products..
What type of places are U looking at for pricing? I assume camera stores such as WB Hunt, BH PHoto, alkit pro, willoughbys( I think they are gone now), etc, etc....
& yes 1080i video is VERY attractive on the Rebel especially considering the wife and I are like U with the pre-existing equipment collection.
What type of places are U looking at for pricing? I assume camera stores such as WB Hunt, BH PHoto, alkit pro, willoughbys( I think they are gone now), etc, etc....
& yes 1080i video is VERY attractive on the Rebel especially considering the wife and I are like U with the pre-existing equipment collection.
Pedro
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the lens collection is pre autofocus Konica equip so they would need a lens adapter no matter what they go on.
so the body choice is back up in the air.
it may go to the Canon because of the video alone (no more vidcam to haul on vacation)
but the thing that miffs me is that both the canon and nikon are both SD now. WTF??? what happened to Compact Flash.. the stuff that is like 2/3 the cost of SD.
32gb for ~$68 in CF. like 100+ in SD
so the body choice is back up in the air.
it may go to the Canon because of the video alone (no more vidcam to haul on vacation)
but the thing that miffs me is that both the canon and nikon are both SD now. WTF??? what happened to Compact Flash.. the stuff that is like 2/3 the cost of SD.
32gb for ~$68 in CF. like 100+ in SD
I have two 16gb SD cards that I toss in the D90. I shoot only in RAW at highest resolution possible. I can get 220 photos/card with those settings. I can get well over 1k photos/card if I dumb the card down some.
Plus, the cards were like $30 each when I bought 'em about 45 days ago. I can practically HEAR them getting cheaper
Plus, the cards were like $30 each when I bought 'em about 45 days ago. I can practically HEAR them getting cheaper
Evan
Active member
too bad i didnt see this earler. tim just told me you were looking for a camera.
i didnt read everyones comments, but a few things i did want to give an opinion on:
my main beef w/ sont is crappy high iso performance. i do a lot of low light shooting so i wouldnt be able to deal with that. not to mention the lenses. the older ziess/minolta stuff is nice but its all manual focus, and probably manual everything. the newer sony/minolta stuff is either crazy expensive ziess stuff, or questionable sony stuff coat-tailing on the ziess/minolta brand name. and that's info straight from the minolta guys.
i do like the thought of in-camera image stabilization, but even the sony guys know the system only last 3-4 years then its burnt out anyway.
i'm a nikon guy because the build quality is better than canon and they're much better about lens interchangeability. you can slap a 1960's film lens on any nikon and it'll just work. until recently i had 3 1980's manual focus, auto aperture nikon lenses that would still meter on my camera. i could set the aperture (ie, f/2.8) or the shutter speed and the camera would figure out the other for me. all i needed to do was focus it. canon changes their mount setup every few years, forcing their customers to upgrade lenses so they dont get the dreadded e-99 message.
if anyones looking at newer nikons, i would only suggest the d40/d60 if you only plan to get a couple newer lenses to toy around with, like the canon rebel above. they dont have built-in AF motors for non-motored lenses.
the d90/d300/d3 have the AF motor and also have the newer processing engines for the best in low light performance and built-in lens correction, white balance, etc. with the newer engine you can use RAW less because the jpgs are so good.
the canon rebel series (300d/350d/500d etc) is the best way to go if you're not going to go crazy on lenses and just want 1-3 newer run of the mill lenses to toy around with on a non-pro level of use/abuse. they have the upperhand on video at the moment too. i'd get a nikon d700 (full frame) but i'm hoping they make a full frame video camera soon.
as for CF vs SD, it doesn't matter. you can get CF>SD adapters for $20.
i run all sandisk extreme IV's, one 8gb CF card and 3, 4GB SD cards with a CF>SD adapter, all works out fine. i get about 2000 raw photos out of all of them. i also wouldnt run one giant card. its definetly easier but they do fail reguarly. you wouldnt want to be in the middle of an event or a vacation and lose both all the photos you shot until then, and the ability to shoot any more. if you have to change out cards every ~500 photos then that's the most you would lose.
as for your list pedro:
if you get a newer tripod make sure to get one that's
1. not plastic legged
2. has a quick release head
and preferably has snap down leg locks instead of thumb screw style ones. saves time.
get a multicoated UV filter for all your lenses. a non-coated one on a digital camera will reflect light back into the camera and produce flare/ghosting.
what were you looking at for other filters? photoshop takes the place of filters for most people. i did just order an ND filter though, that's one thing that's our of the PS wheelhouse.
i didnt read everyones comments, but a few things i did want to give an opinion on:
my main beef w/ sont is crappy high iso performance. i do a lot of low light shooting so i wouldnt be able to deal with that. not to mention the lenses. the older ziess/minolta stuff is nice but its all manual focus, and probably manual everything. the newer sony/minolta stuff is either crazy expensive ziess stuff, or questionable sony stuff coat-tailing on the ziess/minolta brand name. and that's info straight from the minolta guys.
i do like the thought of in-camera image stabilization, but even the sony guys know the system only last 3-4 years then its burnt out anyway.
i'm a nikon guy because the build quality is better than canon and they're much better about lens interchangeability. you can slap a 1960's film lens on any nikon and it'll just work. until recently i had 3 1980's manual focus, auto aperture nikon lenses that would still meter on my camera. i could set the aperture (ie, f/2.8) or the shutter speed and the camera would figure out the other for me. all i needed to do was focus it. canon changes their mount setup every few years, forcing their customers to upgrade lenses so they dont get the dreadded e-99 message.
if anyones looking at newer nikons, i would only suggest the d40/d60 if you only plan to get a couple newer lenses to toy around with, like the canon rebel above. they dont have built-in AF motors for non-motored lenses.
the d90/d300/d3 have the AF motor and also have the newer processing engines for the best in low light performance and built-in lens correction, white balance, etc. with the newer engine you can use RAW less because the jpgs are so good.
the canon rebel series (300d/350d/500d etc) is the best way to go if you're not going to go crazy on lenses and just want 1-3 newer run of the mill lenses to toy around with on a non-pro level of use/abuse. they have the upperhand on video at the moment too. i'd get a nikon d700 (full frame) but i'm hoping they make a full frame video camera soon.
as for CF vs SD, it doesn't matter. you can get CF>SD adapters for $20.
i run all sandisk extreme IV's, one 8gb CF card and 3, 4GB SD cards with a CF>SD adapter, all works out fine. i get about 2000 raw photos out of all of them. i also wouldnt run one giant card. its definetly easier but they do fail reguarly. you wouldnt want to be in the middle of an event or a vacation and lose both all the photos you shot until then, and the ability to shoot any more. if you have to change out cards every ~500 photos then that's the most you would lose.
as for your list pedro:
if you get a newer tripod make sure to get one that's
1. not plastic legged
2. has a quick release head
and preferably has snap down leg locks instead of thumb screw style ones. saves time.
get a multicoated UV filter for all your lenses. a non-coated one on a digital camera will reflect light back into the camera and produce flare/ghosting.
what were you looking at for other filters? photoshop takes the place of filters for most people. i did just order an ND filter though, that's one thing that's our of the PS wheelhouse.
Pedro
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I'll have to check my order slip. but I believe it was UV coated for that reason.
I have a 16GB SD stick comming and a 4GB in the camera now. I have never had one fail, but I subscribed to the Sony Memstick for a long time so i don't knwo if/why it should be different with an SD.
I don't have a backlog of Canon stuff, but I can shoot with Tmounts in Manual, so that's not too bad. And I have that on order for the B&L 1000-4000mm that is sitting in the closet
moon shots here I come.
the biggest thing was that I couldn't hold the Nikon D5000 it was so niny. but nothing says I can't switch eventually
I have no money in Lenses at this point. but I will probably stick with Canon.
I didn't think that canon changed mounts since the manual age.
Oh and don't forget with the size of the EF mount you can buy adapters for most lenses and fit them to the camera. I should order one so I can fit my Pentax 50mm F1.2
hmm.. wonder what else I have from the K1000 kicking around. hehe. I think I have an FD filter as well.
I have a 16GB SD stick comming and a 4GB in the camera now. I have never had one fail, but I subscribed to the Sony Memstick for a long time so i don't knwo if/why it should be different with an SD.
I don't have a backlog of Canon stuff, but I can shoot with Tmounts in Manual, so that's not too bad. And I have that on order for the B&L 1000-4000mm that is sitting in the closet
the biggest thing was that I couldn't hold the Nikon D5000 it was so niny. but nothing says I can't switch eventually
I didn't think that canon changed mounts since the manual age.
Oh and don't forget with the size of the EF mount you can buy adapters for most lenses and fit them to the camera. I should order one so I can fit my Pentax 50mm F1.2
hmm.. wonder what else I have from the K1000 kicking around. hehe. I think I have an FD filter as well.
Stein
Stein
I understood about two sentances out of the above two posts, but I do have one thing to respond to from Evan's post:
Jimbo's D90 had such good JPEGs, I didn't have to use the RAWs (which were actually NEFs (Nikon Electric Format, I assume this is just raw with a different extension?). This was nice because I was not able to use the NEFs on my desktop which only has Photoshop CS2 (they worked on CS3 though).
Jimbo's D90 had such good JPEGs, I didn't have to use the RAWs (which were actually NEFs (Nikon Electric Format, I assume this is just raw with a different extension?). This was nice because I was not able to use the NEFs on my desktop which only has Photoshop CS2 (they worked on CS3 though).
Evan
Active member
the uv coating is different than multicoating so you may want to double check. theres a price difference, that's the biggest hint.I'll have to check my order slip. but I believe it was UV coated for that reason.
I have a 16GB SD stick comming and a 4GB in the camera now. I have never had one fail, but I subscribed to the Sony Memstick for a long time so i don't knwo if/why it should be different with an SD.
I don't have a backlog of Canon stuff, but I can shoot with Tmounts in Manual, so that's not too bad. And I have that on order for the B&L 1000-4000mm that is sitting in the closetmoon shots here I come.
the biggest thing was that I couldn't hold the Nikon D5000 it was so niny. but nothing says I can't switch eventuallyI have no money in Lenses at this point. but I will probably stick with Canon.
I didn't think that canon changed mounts since the manual age.
Oh and don't forget with the size of the EF mount you can buy adapters for most lenses and fit them to the camera. I should order one so I can fit my Pentax 50mm F1.2
hmm.. wonder what else I have from the K1000 kicking around. hehe. I think I have an FD filter as well.
as for the memory cards, think of it like the old 2.5 headgaskets. they could go at 30K or 230K, and once and a while they last till after the bearings fail. i've had 2 cards fail on me, one of which was brand new in the box.
canon mounts were/are:
R
FL
FD
AC (FD w/ autofocus)
EF
EF-S
nikon started with the F mount the same time as canon's R mount. they still have it and have added the interchangeable (with crop) DX series.
canons FD to EF was the big killer. FD went through the 70's and mid 80's til it switched over to the EF. all the pros needed to toss all their equipment.
then EF-S is for the smaller sensor digitals.
EF full framers cant mount newer EF-s crop lenses.
you can get EF adapters for other mounts (true for most makers), does that apply to the EF-S too? i know some adapter setups have problems like not being able to focus all the way to infinity. hopefully the short back focus on EF-S lenses doesn come into play.
nikon's similar lenses (DX) can mount to full frame (FX) cameras but with either vignetting (dark corners) or at a preset cropped resolution. i'm planning on buying the new tokina ATX116 11-16mm super wide angle lens as soon as the price comes down. its designed as a crop frame but even on a full frame camera like the d700 its still good down to 13mm
i've never held the d5000 but it definetly looks tiny. i'm guessing that just like the d40 it was made for soccer moms
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