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The EF lenses all fit on EFS cameras. there is talk that the EFS stuff will go away since it is only for crop sensor cameras.

the nice part about the EF mount is that it is larger and more shallow than just about every other manufacturer. so an F mount will require only a mechanical adapter (for manual aperature lenses) and will fit with infinity focus.

I actually found this out today. I stumbled upon a post at newschoolofphotography.com about a 5Dii mounting some old Nikor lenses. it linked a Flikr feed with a ton of old mounts on the EF bodies.

the only interference is typically deep setting apreature arms (like pentax K mount's) and this problem is only with the full frame cameras. the 500D is a crop so I am fine with that.

It honestly was a tough decision between the Nikon/Canon. and the thing that put it over for me was the 720 HD video @ 30FPS I don't see myself using the 1080 at 24FPS much due to the speed capture issues with that and the file size.

I take a ton of process photos for work and will be returning to Asia to do it again. I was so fed up with my P&S last time that I about punted it out the window. the focus was all over the place while taking video and the darker nature of manufacturing killed the picture quality. plus I really wanted to get back into photography. If I could justify jumping up to full frame I would have been looking between the D90 (that is full right??) and the 5D. but I don't want that kinda cash around my neck in Asia.

I am going to order some adapters soon, and we should meet up and see what fits/works and what doesn't. it would be incredible if the chipped adapters enabled AF on Fmount lenses in the canon.

the adapters do open the Canon up to some pretty sweet pawn shop finds though. I would love to find a 50mm f1.x for cheap money. or maybey a good wide or fisheye.

If you can point me to some good shops in the area that carry used equipment that would be great. when I got out of photography in college I was 150mi away, and the only good store in the area closed.

 
people may say that crop frame is going away, but it may stay too. the fundamental problem with it is that the more megapixels you squeeze onto the sensor, the more noise you will get. but as technology has gotten better, noise has lessened. i honestly dont have a problem with crop format assuming that noise doesn't go up. the new ultra wide angles are as optically good as the full frame wide angles (and field of view equivelant), and the telephotos benefit from free extra zoom. i just dont want to buy anymore crop lenses if the change IS going to happen. i stopped about a year ago, but i think i will get that tokina 11-16mm since its good down to 13mm on full frame anyway, so i'd keep it even if i make the change.

some people are saying that the new world is going to be:

large format (8x10 cameras) replaced with digital medium format (60mp hasselblad)

medium format (6x7 cameras) replaced with full frame.

35mm format replaced by crop format

110 etc replaced by point and shoots.

makes sense to me....

that's good to hear about the wide EF mount. although you'll be able to mount many lenses and probably get the auto aperture to work, mechanical auto focus may be another problem.

the reason the d40 and d5000 are so small (other than they made every attempt to do so) is that they dont have the internal focusing motor. they need the AF-S (silent wave) lenses made in the last few years. those lenses are either medeocre optically (kit lenses) or crazy expensive ($1800 24-70mm f2.8). the nice in the middles are the non-motored AF lenses like the 35-70mm f2.8 that can be had used for a couple hundred.

if you're looking for a 50mm you can get the canon f1.8 for like $100 new, but its not super durable. they've been known to literally fall apart. that's the other 50% of the reason i like nikon. i use my lenses as an armrest while the camera is at my side
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like all 50mm's, the canon is great optically though. cant beat it for the money though.

if you're looking for clean low noise video you'll need a wide aperture lens, f2.8 or under. a prime would be cheapest, like 50mm.

if you're looking for those new, or anything used, i would check out photomarket on forest ave in portland. they have a couple boxes of used stuff. hunts photo by the mall may too. if you get anything from online or whatever, make sure it has 'oil free, snappy aperture blades' and no 'fungus or oil residue'.

 
I don't think that the crop frame will go away. it creates a nice small format DSLR. but I think honestly I will buy lenses with the intent of shooting with a full frame camera eventually.

I was thinking of picking up a few of the pentax K mount primes the 50mm F1.4 is pretty cheap now.

or a manual aperature fish eye: http://cgi.ebay.com/FISH-EYE-ZENITAR-K-2-8-16-LENS-PENTAX-K-MOUNT_W0QQitemZ290279411567QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCamera_Lenses?hash=item4396004f6f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1234|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50

hehe.

I really haven't shot much with anything that hasn't been full manual. and I am comfortable focusing manually on most things as long as I have a nice stiff focus ring. the only other downside is Exif data isn't stored correctly with manual aperature lenses.

 
i'd like to go full frame too, and hopefully the next in the d700 series will have video (d800?). but at the same time wide angle crop glass is coming up in quality, and you can use all the pro quality full frame glass on them as well with the 'free zoom'. i guess time will tell.

fisheyes are great for manual focus because the shorter the focal length, the more depth of field there is. a little misfocus generally doenst matter. telephoto on the other hand might be just inches in focus.

this can be troublesome with something like a 50mm f1.4. a lot of people use them at f1.4 when shooting people indoors with available light. at lets say 10ft away from the subject the sharp depth of field is only about 6 inches. that's not much leeway between a good photo and junk.

peleng makes an 8mm too, which might be a little better on a crop frame camera. that 16mm is listed as 180deg, but that is probably on full frame. 16mm figheye is still pretty wide though, but 16mm rectiliniar is not (kit lenses go down to 18mm).

 
I would definitely like to talk shop and check out your gear.

as soon as I get back from Asia I will be ordering a few things for my gear bag.

I completely suck at post processing, so I tend to be a little old school and set everything up so I won't have to do much if anything.

I definitely like your work man. and your old threads from STM are still around. Keep posting up the new stuff!

 
most definitely. you can probably get a copy of 'adome fotoshop cs4' while you're over there pretty cheap.

i'll get back to posting new stuff sooner or later. i've been lazy lately. i also need to find out if the standards for lady photos on MS are any different than the STM standards. i was wondering if i should bump the old thread because of that.

 
What do you guys think of the Canon EOS XTi?

I found one (used) with a crazy battery pack, an EF-S 18-55mm IS lens, UV filters, 1GB CF card, and a wireless remote for $450.

I'm wondering where this camera is compared to, say, a D40x and a D60.

The XTi has autofocus, which is always nice for quick pictures, but I could always get an AF lens if I go the Nikon route.

 
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What do you guys think of the Canon EOS XTi?I found one (used) with a crazy battery pack, an EF-S 18-55mm IS lens, UV filters, 1GB CF card, and a wireless remote for $450.

I'm wondering where this camera is compared to, say, a D40x and a D60.

The XTi has autofocus, which is always nice for quick pictures, but I could always get an AF lens if I go the Nikon route.
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The XTi will compare directly with the D40. The XSi compares with the D60. You will have autofocus on either the nikons or the Canons. What Evan was saying is that some of the older AF lenses don't have the focus motor in the lens, so they will not focus on anything that is not a D80 or up. My buddy has an Xti and has had it for 4+ years. it is a nice rig and he has done some good work with it. The biggest thing to know is that it isn't as much the equipment as it is the photographer. The equipment helps, but it won't turn you into a pro. I think that deal isn't too bad, but it isn't stellar either. The battery packs are $60 and 1GB doesn't get you too far. If you price out the camera and accessories and it comes out to a price you are cool with, go for it.

 
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