Storyland 2008 4/26 and 4/27
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ruggedman
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You should be able to get around -1.5 in the rear w/o bolts. Dont bother with them in the back.
And in the front use those aftermarket bolts in the bottom hole, use them only in the horizontal position. And then fine tune with the top stock bolt. If you need help swing by my garage and i'll set them up for you. I spent a lot of time under mine getting it right.
akinaspeedstar
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well after talking with joel and justin, it seems the problem is in the back.
the front bolts you can get an impact on, so those are nice and tight. my fronts haven't moved at all that i can see.
in the rear, theres not enough room to get on them so they aren't tightend enough. so when you get home you need to take the wheel off and crank on them, or pay the tech to take the wheels off and do it for you.
im just done with messing with the damn things. i've already had two alginments to try and get them right and im NOT paying for a 3rd alignment. so im putting the stock bolts back in. running the same rear camber that i had last year and all winter. cause that hasn't changed. and i'll probaly tighten the fronts just in case.
so i was the guinea pig for the rear camber bolts, now you all know how to make it work.
the front bolts you can get an impact on, so those are nice and tight. my fronts haven't moved at all that i can see.
in the rear, theres not enough room to get on them so they aren't tightend enough. so when you get home you need to take the wheel off and crank on them, or pay the tech to take the wheels off and do it for you.
im just done with messing with the damn things. i've already had two alginments to try and get them right and im NOT paying for a 3rd alignment. so im putting the stock bolts back in. running the same rear camber that i had last year and all winter. cause that hasn't changed. and i'll probaly tighten the fronts just in case.
so i was the guinea pig for the rear camber bolts, now you all know how to make it work.
katnip
the car is black. I swear
how much does camber REALLY help? I was running stock (install new springs and struts, tires don't wear, leave it alone) alignment, and outback sport springs to raise the car and had very little push. from what I recall, camber isn't all that helpful at the slower speeds that AX generate?! My car seemed to push less than Pete's and he has lots of negative camber in his RS.
katnip
the car is black. I swear
Heidi, the key to driving the supra will be being gentle on the throttle. Did you see the mustangs in the wet, arse end kicking out? You could hear that most of that was a twitchy right foot. Drive like there is an egg between your foot and the go pedal! The quick on and off the throttle will cause the tail happiness. You can do that with an AWD car! The dirt racer in me says to really practice left foot braking, it is so handy with RWD. It will allow you to keep steady pressure on the throttle while using the brake to keep the car under control. Once you have the supra going, I may have to come to one of the events and let you kick my arse in STX.Kathy, you really should come to some more events. We will be in the same class!! You may just beat me while I'm learning the supra. :thumbsup:Kathy, can you please come to the remainder of events and do this everytime?????ccasion14:
Peter and Mike are afraid to be in my class with the supra.... :dontknow:
EvilAsPie
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Camber sure does help. Especially in the front! I was pushing my car pretty hard around those corners, and when you push it too hard or enter it wrong you will plow. And i def pushed her too hard and did some corners wrong a few times, especially down that hill on day two. :BangHead:
But i also was able to get her through the corners a lot faster then i could have last year.
Kat you are a hell of a driver, better then me, i can tell. I was consistently 4 seconds faster then you both days, but it was not all me. We drove very similar lines, but my car allowed me to do it a lot faster.
Can my car go faster as i get better? Sure can! And i can't wait!!!
ruggedman
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Seriously. Bring it to my house, I'll max you out. You'll be happy. You need to get your toe checked everytime though because it changes with camber changes and toe will wear your tires faster than a hamfisting superhero.well after talking with joel and justin, it seems the problem is in the back.
the front bolts you can get an impact on, so those are nice and tight. my fronts haven't moved at all that i can see.
in the rear, theres not enough room to get on them so they aren't tightend enough. so when you get home you need to take the wheel off and crank on them, or pay the tech to take the wheels off and do it for you.
im just done with messing with the damn things. i've already had two alginments to try and get them right and im NOT paying for a 3rd alignment. so im putting the stock bolts back in. running the same rear camber that i had last year and all winter. cause that hasn't changed. and i'll probaly tighten the fronts just in case.
so i was the guinea pig for the rear camber bolts, now you all know how to make it work.
katnip
the car is black. I swear
I know where I lost lots of my time, Pete think about my starts compared to yours. You launched faster than I, and took the first two corners out of the box waaayyy harder than I. I feel launching AWD on tarmac is too hard on the gear, plus the quick left 90 off the start, I took really slow to eliminate taking out cones. Of course I forgot it was tarmac and the tail wouldn't kick out and kill the cones and timing lights!
Just curious, do any of you left foot brake on the course? I was trail/threshold braking all day, just wonder if that works for anyone else?
Just curious, do any of you left foot brake on the course? I was trail/threshold braking all day, just wonder if that works for anyone else?
akinaspeedstar
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kathy if you come to another race i can show you how to safely launch a AWD on tarmac.
i've never tried LFB and if i did on course im sure i'd win the cone eater award
i've never tried LFB and if i did on course im sure i'd win the cone eater award
At CMC we have been trying to Stop designing courses that the starting gates allow AWD launches. (also it is not a fair playing ground for your competitor if they have Rwd ,Fwd) There is no need to add unnecessary stress on your drive train. If you do choose to do so (launch) most of the times you approach the first cones to hot anyway and you slam on your brake and/or interrupt your flow. Remember, smooth and steady with wise picked lines gets the fastest times. IMHO :munky2:
akinaspeedstar
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im using launch as a pretty generic term. im not talking about drag racing launches.
the idea with a GC and probably a WRX ( i've never driven one i don't know)
is to blip the throttle between 1k-2k ish. just kind of heel toe blips. then when your ready to go give it a little harder blip maybe 2 and a half ish. then quickly and smoothly slip the clutch. don't drop it. it's the same as taking off normally just faster and the RMPs are slightly higher so you don't get that bog right after you let out the clutch. no extreme wear on any of the parts, and it probaly isn't much worse on the car then taking off normally.
the idea with a GC and probably a WRX ( i've never driven one i don't know)
is to blip the throttle between 1k-2k ish. just kind of heel toe blips. then when your ready to go give it a little harder blip maybe 2 and a half ish. then quickly and smoothly slip the clutch. don't drop it. it's the same as taking off normally just faster and the RMPs are slightly higher so you don't get that bog right after you let out the clutch. no extreme wear on any of the parts, and it probaly isn't much worse on the car then taking off normally.
*cough* *cough* bullshit *cough* *cough* :happy3:
I guess it's understandable that the playing field has to be leveled for for the poor, small, underpowered, nimble cars since CMC courses are sooooo wide open and fast.... oh wait. :thumbsup: I heard that they were trying to protect the pavement to help keep event locations, but I guess the honda drivers trying to cover up their lack of skill is a more likely :hello:
Redline
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I must be in the wrong sub-forum.... is this Johnny's Corner of Smack Talk?
As for launching, I found a pretty consistent launch at 3k, feathering the clutch (yeah, burn baby, burn) until the car is through the start light. This distance is usually enough to get enough rolling power to completely release the clutch and concentrate on the turn. I don't pop it, or blip the throttle - I feather it into submission. :bom:
subieRSgrrl
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Thanks Kathy. Unfortunately I did not see the mustangs in the rain. I was sitting in a car trying to stay warm and keep my foot dry. I think I will get the hang of it eventually. It will take some playing first and some slow maneuvering. I will just have to get used to the car again. It's been a while since I have driven it. The size of it vs. the RS will be something to get used to too. I'm just glad we have some larger lots this year for me. I will also have my handy co-pilot with me to help me too! :thumbsup: He takes good care of me!
When it 's as tight as this past weekend I simply rev to 1.5k and let out the clutch super quick. I'm usually done bogging before the lights and this lets me completely focus on getting through the start without nabbing cones. I figure the .1s I might be leaving on the table is more than made up by getting closer to the proper line through the start.
STX is flooded with higher hp rwd boats this year so you can probably grab up plenty of rides with comparable cars and figure out what they are doing, and how to improve on it. :thumbsup:
ruggedman
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I looked down when i took off and to my surprise (i do it all by feel) i take off at like 3500. It's not a violent start though, i just kept it at half throttle through the first gates then nailed the gas and hit 2nd and never looked back.
I do sometimes use LFB to make speed corrections if i'm already back on the gas and i feel like i'm getting too hot for the corner. I try to be gentle with it though so it doens't upset the car.
And SubieRSgrrl, take a ride will Bill Neptune. For a guy that wears a hogan permanently, he's really friendly and one of the best RWD boat specialists in the club i'd say.
I do sometimes use LFB to make speed corrections if i'm already back on the gas and i feel like i'm getting too hot for the corner. I try to be gentle with it though so it doens't upset the car.
And SubieRSgrrl, take a ride will Bill Neptune. For a guy that wears a hogan permanently, he's really friendly and one of the best RWD boat specialists in the club i'd say.
+1 actually all the mustang drivers are good guys, STX should be a real fun laid back competition this season.
This just made me realize that I have beaten Antonio every time I've sported a hogan. If I lose to him at the next event my g/f is going to hate the result (perma-hogan here I come). :headbang: